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  posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

  uhm, i'm interested. does anyone know a link where i can "borrow" one?

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  posted by hilarion, 4 months ago

  interested but i haven't had the chance to watch it yet.

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  posted by joriben, 4 months ago

  My friends have mix opinions about this movie. I really don't want to waste money on a crappy movie so if anyone has a very complete and honest review about this movie I will be happy to read it before I watch the flick.

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  posted by minjiemeiji, 4 months ago

  hmm.. my friends in multimedia in arts major said that it is a good animation for a Filipino movie... but not the type of movie that could go international though. and they said that the dubbing sucks 'cause they used some languages not appropriate for that era..anyway im not interested to watch it hehe. they were actually required to watch it cause most of the ABMA profs helped making the film.. they got no choice ahahha

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  posted by feanne, 4 months ago

  My friend wrote a fairly complete review of the movie:
  http://wexistence.livejournal.com/258512.html

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  posted by luis, 4 months ago

  I think Ryan was asking if _anyone else_ saw it.

  I've said twice now that I will, but I can't seem to gather up the necessary resolution to do so. If it's laughably bad I guess that'll be kinda ok. Then again, a lot of the really bad local movies just make it too easy to diss them; so much so that it's not very satisfying anymore.

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  posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

  @feanne - added you and your friend in my LJ, you don't mind do you? ;p

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  @luis if it's any consolation we were laughing out loaud in the theater at all the wrong moments. But those were interspersed with moments of real anguish too, so...

  @everyone else:http://geekofalltrades.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/urduja-movie-review/

  My own review, in case you guys are interested. Lots of good comments there from people who actually watched the movie. My suggestion is watch it in the shittiest movie theater you can find so you don't spend too much money.

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  i'll just borrow a DVD copy of this What??? URDUJA?

  won't watch this on cinemas because:

  1. Wala nanamang Originality: Pocahontas & jungle Book sort of film. The cinematic, the colors and the characters were all Disney inspired and the talking animals aswell.

  2. Typical Filipino plot: "Hindi pa tapos ang movie, alam mo na kung anu ang mangyayari." And they lived happily ever after.

  3. The movie's marketing and media plugging was so extensive that I started to hear phrases like, "pls. watch..." or "Sana panoorin nyo...". These made me think that they are not asking us to watch rather, they are begging us to see the film... jumping into conclusion that they don't even trust the capacity of the movie to gather viewers.

  4. They movie is all over dunkin donuts boxes. We ate dunkin almost everyday. Kaya sawa na ko sa itsura ng mga Urduja Characters.

  5. Mathematics: a seat costs 150 pesos. I will not watch alone so i'll bring somebody with me, that costs me another 150 pesos making my movie experience worth 300 pesos. Nike is on sale and I was able to buy a pretty nice t-shirt for only 389 pesos. Now, why would I spend for a movie that will only give heartbreaks, than buying a shirt that will satisfy me for the rest of its useful life?

  6. I also think that the characters were more idaho and eskimo than a Filipino could possibly look like on tribal or brangay ages. <--->

  And I haven't seen the movie yet. hehe

  I have more to say but lets give the producers and the people behind the... Urduja? the benefit of the doubt. It is really a family and kids movie...

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  sorry sa typo at grammar. hehe

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  posted by luis, 4 months ago

  ^^ What does "idaho and eskimo" even look like?

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  http://www.sonofthesouth.net/texas/pictures/eskimo-girl-350.jpg

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  posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

  i dint watch it. the character is so much like mulan. is it so hard to come up with an image that doesnt look like someone else?

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  posted by notinlovewidyu, 4 months ago

  mulan, pocahontas.. who else? i haven't watched the movie yet, but i dont know anyone yet who've already watched the film.

  plus, it's not yet available in quiapo. hehe. :D

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  I think we should support them. It's the first true attempt, so to compare with what the rest of the world is offering is unfair.

  Animation is one of the industries the philippines can truly excel in, and has the potential to become a major source of foreign income. Filipinos are already renowned for being artistic. The grasp of the english language is very strong. There is no drain in natural resources. There is no shipping necessary. Investment is in Pesos, yet return can be in dollars, euros, etc, etc. After an initial labour intensive investment, the returns can keep coming in. In short, animation is perfect for the philippines.

  Support them. The philippines NEEDS the industry to improve. And the industry needs our support for that to happen.

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  posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

  If that's the case, why can't they just do baby steps? In my opinion, they'll get better fans/support/investment if they concentrate on short films/webisodes/tv shows/even commercials rather than focus their energy on a full blown and what could be a compromised endeavor that in my opinion focuses more on the voice actors rather than the animation.

  Based on my limited knowledge, isn't the bulk of american animated entertainment already outsourced in asia? Why can't we have a slice of that pie? If the local animated industry is to develop, it shouldn't focus solely on the local market but instead it should also set it's sights globally.

  Look at japanese anime, they develop it for their local audience but also dub/subtitle it for the global market. That in my humble opinion is where our local animators should focus into. Not these projects that serve only a limited audience.

  In fact I'm more excited about the upcoming super inggo animated tv show rather than urduja.

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  ^ well that's exactly it. Some of the most popular cartoons of the past were actually inked in the philippines. Some disney stuff, and for sure the Hanna-Barbara stuff(eg. Flintstones, jetsons, etc)

  You're right. They should start with babysteps and seriously focus on global ambitions. But I still feel we should support this first effort. Either way people will complain. If their first major effort was a western tale, people would complain why not a pinoy story?

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  posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

  Also, why does the marketing of Urduja give the impression that it's trying so hard to be a Disney film?

  IMHO they'll be much more appreciated for their originality rather than be like a fairly good singer that just belts nothing but rehashed remakes of old songs.

  I want my aswangs, tikbalangs, and diwatas. I want an animated kali fight using old weapons.(pardon this musings as they're more from my wish lists of things to see) Etc. They should find their own voice/niche/platform and stop copying western pop culture.

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  completely agree

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  so to compare with what the rest of the world is offering is unfair. <----->

  Animation is one of the industries the philippines can truly excel in <------>

  Filipinos are already renowned for being artistic. <----->

  There is no shipping necessary. Investment is in Pesos, yet return can be in dollars, euros, etc, etc. <---->

  animation is perfect for the philippines. <---->

  Some disney stuff, and for sure the Hanna-Barbara stuff(eg. Flintstones, jetsons, etc) <---->

  And also I read you saying that the Story is Filipino. I beg to disagree. i think you must read the BOOK story of princess Urduja. Nilagyan lang nila ng kalabaw kaya naging Filipino.

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  so to compare with what the rest of the world is offering is unfair. ==== if we continue this mentality we can never be on top of something. "Hindi pwede and pwede na."

  Animation is one of the industries the philippines can truly excel in ===== I thought the president said NURSING.

  Filipinos are already renowned for being artistic. ===== French claimed to be renowned artists also.

  There is no shipping necessary. Investment is in Pesos, yet return can be in dollars, euros, etc, etc. ===== How sure are you with this? I think you better read the credits one more time. you'll see someone or something out there than required importation and DOLLARS.

  animation is perfect for the philippines. ===== Japan also think animation is perfect for them, and judging by the looks... I think they are right.

  Some disney stuff, and for sure the Hanna-Barbara stuff(eg. Flintstones, jetsons, etc) ===== They were inked but not conceptualize.

  And also I read you saying that the Story is Filipino. I beg to disagree. i think you must read the BOOK story of princess Urduja. Nilagyan lang nila ng kalabaw kaya naging Filipino.

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  I'm not familiar with the story...I just assumed from the complaints.

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  then don't be so fancy with your comments.

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  posted by minor, 4 months ago

  oh flame na to....

  for me ok na yan kesa wala...

  meron pa bang Funny Komiks?

  Combatron: The Movie ..... kaso ginaya lang din kay Rockman

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  my comments were fancy?

  I need to know more about this particular attempt to understand the potential merits of animation to the philippines?

  the president says nursing so it must be nursing only?

  the french are good artists so we shouldn't bother?

  oh well

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  1. I guess not.

  2. you don't need to, it's obvious.

  3. Not really. Sure there are more ........ than animation that we CAN TRULY EXCEL IN.

  4. Yes, we shouldn't but we must be better.

  actually inked in the philippines ==== Inked not animated... there's a big difference on drawing something than actually making it move. "Cartooning vs. Animation"

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  posted by lexicon, 4 months ago

  i remember Panday the animated series. it sucked, but its was a start, just like this one. i hope the makers of urduja will learn from whatever mistakes they made.

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  Hey hey hey kids, get the fuck back in line and lets discuss the movie eh?

  SInce I'm a lazy fucker I will compy and past my own "fancy" comments from my blog:

  this is what I always say to people who suggest that we should encourage anything Filipino: If you think that we’re harsh with it, just imagine how the rest of the world will react. We aren’t pulling down Urduja as a form of crab mentality, we’re discussing it’s flaws so that the animators, if they’re serious about their craft and want to make it better, can take a look at our comments and hopefully craft a better story, a better film.

  Perhaps the film was good enough for the average Filipino. Perhaps it was good enough to satisfy people who haven’t watched a lot of good animated films, or good films even. But I have. And I want our films to be as good as or better than the other films I see. Is that a bad thing, that I want them to raise their standards?

  And about our usual approach…I think you’re dead wrong in this case. We’ve been overtaken by a rabid Filipino mass that congratulates every single Filipino that gets a bit part in a movie abroad. Some chick was cast as Psylocke in the last X-men movie. A role that had little or no speaking parts. We made a big deal out of it. Why, simply because she’s Filipino. My point is that it shouldn’t be enough that something is Filipino for us to beat our chests about it. It should be Filipino and fucking world class.

  I’m proud of Apl d Ap, I’m proud of Larry Alcala, I’m proud of Leinil Yu, I’m proud of Manny Pacquiao, I’m proud of Efren Reyes, I’m proud of Paeng Nepomuceno, hell I’m proud of Batista. JUST Not because they’re Filipino, but because they’re Filipino and they kick fucking ass and take names and dominate(d, in the case of Alcala) their field of expertise.

  That’s what the makers of Urduja should strive to be, and when they get there I’ll be proud of them too.

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  posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

  oo nga pala, hindi mulan, pocahontas. isnt urduja originally one of the epics from pangasinan? not sure. ive read this book "after eden" using llustrations by some filipino guy i dont remember and its not so bad. maybe they should start with that. i dunno, just a suggestion.

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  posted by trukr, 4 months ago

  I didn't say anything about being proud of it just because it's filipino made. (still... proud they're trying)
  I didn't say anything about throwing any old crap out to the rest of the world.

  I merely suggested the potential filipinos could have with animation, and the affect that could have on the country. IF we support the industry to help it improve.

  you know...another possible export besides our people

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  trukr: Agreed, Even I said that people should support it to give them another shot at making a good film. However, repeatedly supporting them even if they release 3 or 5 more bad animated films is just retarded. I'm willing to give them a shot but if they don't grow into better animators then there's no point supporting them.

  Perhaps you didn't say anything about throwing crap out to the rest of the world, but I think the consensus here is that Urduja is crap. I think it was a crap movie. Hell, the dialogue was written by the people who write for Eat Bulaga (or so I'm told) so I can't expect much. What I'msaying is that it's crap, but I'm willing to contribute my 150 pesos to give them another shot at entertaining me. If they fail me, I'm gonna stop supporting htem and go out and buy a copy of Persepolis, an animated movie that didn't try too hard with the disneyified characters and "special efects" and singing and reaped international acclaim.

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  posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

  yep, persepolis was shown in school under the sponsorship of the film major geek squad. poignant enough not to care about cgi ad nauseum and remarkably delivers.

  on urduja, where can i get one? any online pinoy store that carries it? thanks.

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  You have 150 pesos and you want to go see a film...

  You saw Urduja, The Hulk, and Narnia. Which one will you go for?
  
  
  
  TOP 10 EXPORTS OF THE PHILIPPINES:
  
  
  Semiconductors & related devices
  
  Cotton household furnishings & clothing
  
  Computer accessories, peripherals & parts
  
  Non-cotton household furnishings & clothing
  
  Automotive parts & accessories
  
  Furniture & other household items (e.g. baskets)
  
  Electric apparatus
  
  Household items (e.g. clocks)
  
  Fish & shellfish
  
  Goods returned then re-exported
  
  
  Based on foreign trade statistics
  
  
  Where's Animation?

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  posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

  @manong_jots - 100% filipino owned ba yang mga exports na yan?

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  opo mr darth....

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  posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

  I've yet to hear about a 100% pinoy owned semicon company. :P

  But back to topic, I still will watch this film just to see for myself that is if they ever plan to release it nationwide.

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  posted by wicked1925, 4 months ago

  hey jots, you forgot to mention the most number of exports we have: maids.

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  posted by Stingray, 4 months ago

  Urduja isn't bad for a start. At least they(prod team) tried their best considering the technology and resources that we have for this kind of film. It isn't bad at all.

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  posted by Jots18, 4 months ago

  @wicked: Maids are not exports... they belong to the OUTSOURCED category.

  That make me ask again.... Does trukr means OUTSOURCE not export?

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  posted by mesai, 4 months ago

  hold on, guys.. urduja, afaik, is locally produced animation, however, it's not the only pinoy-made animation. sissy duckling of BBC and kim possible of the Disney Channel were products of filipino animators, and my ex was one of them.

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  posted by lyka, 4 months ago

  i haven't seen the film, but i say, give credit where credit is due, keep expectations at a realistic level, aim to become better in future attempts by learning from the examples of other countries' animation, eventually maybe developing our own style. but goddammit, let's "support" (and by support, i mean go pay to watch it, lol) this first one so that in the future, philippine animation may actually be something filipinos can be proud of because it's good AND filipino-made, rather than just the latter. that being said, i'll keep an eye out for it online. lol. (What, i'm in hawaii, and i doubt they'll be releasing DVDs just hearing about what a flop it is >.<) :P

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  posted by CuntClapper, 4 months ago

  I think the primary reason with this animated film sucks (would suck, I haven't watched is yet) is that the topic is too heavy, so uncartoonish, and consequently un-Filipino for a Filipino animated film. And, as usual, being more or less a mainstream effort, it lacks the good writing that I think abounds in underground and indie outfits.
  Hell, I'd pay double for a Pugad Baboy clay animation film?

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  @mesai: Filipinos have been animating foreign cartoons for years. Urduja's claim to fame is that it is purely pinoy, from concept to execution.

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  @darthjesus: It's pretty new so I don't think you can expect it in DVD form anytime soon. There may be torrents of it already though.

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  posted by hilarion, 4 months ago

  fuck this. NOW i'm intrigued. watch it i shall. i hope it's still showing.

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  posted by MrClean, 4 months ago

  It's only showing here:

  SM City Bacoor Cinema 8 Bacoor
  SM City Fairview Cinema 5 Quezon City
  SM City Molino Cinema 3 Bacoor
  SM City North Edsa Cinema 12 Quezon City

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  posted by lakerfan, 4 months ago

  filipino animators have been in existence since the heydays of yogi bear...the problem with is the technology that the producers are supposed to use. probably the same reason why Urduja is done in 10 freakin' years(wild?)...
  and probably one of the reason why it's not satisfactory in taste. we just can't afford it yet.

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