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contributed by arteo, 4 months ago
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"The philippines is a great land of opportunity. It is for us to make full use of them."- Henry Sy, Sr.-

But I guess not all people can see it. "Wala ng pag-asa dito sa Pilipinas", this is what I usually hear.

Just a few days ago, my brother told me to study truck driving and apply for Canada. The first thing that comes into my mind, "Why finished up college and be a truck driver?".

I heard one of my engineering instructor said he is going to middle east and be a laborer. "So what?", he said. "Kahit hindi ako engineer dun , mas malaki naman ang kita." --> Ang sa akin lang, bakit pag nasa ibang bansa gagawin ang lahat para lang kumita na maayos. Bakit dito sa pinas, eh hindi magawa yung ' gagawin ko ang lahat '.

They cannot understand me, as maybe you guys too. I see a lot opportunities here in the Philppines.

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I wish I can hear some comments from my kababayan abroad.
salamat.

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    kasi sa ibang bansa, your hardwork pays off. ultimong basurero sa states theyre getting paid well. unfortunately, thats not the case in the philippines.

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    this is just my opinion, take it or leave it.

    The reason why I think others say, "gagawin ang lahat para kumita", is everyone is expendable here. if you don't work your ass off, someone else will take your job. once you lose a job, it's hard to find one. I got lucky. a few months after coming back, I landed a job. connections.

    if you don't work hard, you won't eat. nothing is fucking free out here. everything has a price. if some idiot could put a price on air, they would.

    There's to much politics in offices. Palakasan ba. Kahit not worthy of promotion, napopromote ang loko. Yes, this is form experience.

    If you see a lot of opportunities there, good for you. But I don't think its enough. There may be a lot of opportunities, but pay may not be enough to get by.

    Plus, I had no choice. TNT ako... sa pinas. nyahahahahaha!

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    chelsea is right. amp. mas mataas pa sweldo ng basurero sa akin and i work in an office. and they get mo benefits then I do.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    If you will be given a chance, kikita ka ng malaki dito sa pinas, gagawin mo?

    Kaya lang tulad ko...... magbebenta ka ng kape! At magkwekwento.

    :)

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    naalala ko, yung first job ko sa pinas, i was a teacher at some small school. yung bang tipong bahay na kinonvert na school. and sweldo ko pa nga lang nun eh 4k every month. pamasahe pa lang yun hehe.

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    with great wealth comes great opportunities.

    i get 20 per hour as a working stude. basureros here get 35 and 40 on winters. ;((

    ya, the number of money-making opportunities is directly proportional to the depth of your pocket. hehehe

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    well depende na rin siguro. if you would put me in that situation, i would decline, kasi hindi ko forte ang selling. hanga nga ako sa cousin-in-law ko eh, med rep sya at malaki yung benta nya. i could never do that.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    @chelsea......yes you could....! practice lang naman eh. Sino ba namang first time maglaro ng basketball na magaling agad.!

    and I know someday, gusto mo ring mag-put up ng business pagnakaipon ka. At naniniwala ako lahat ng business, kelangang magbenta.

    Not unless, you will be working there until 60's and retire and umasa na lang sa pensions and benefits.....

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    ^ ewan ko. i guess you have a point. but i have to love a job or at least be interested in it for me to be good at it. all in time i guess =)

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    makaligo nga, taenang ulan yan basang basa ako.

    fuck, what happened earlier tonight goes straight to the memories i'd like to relive. gudnite

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    If you will be given a chance, kikita ka ng malaki dito sa pinas, gagawin mo?

    Kaya lang tulad ko...... magbebenta ka ng kape! At magkwekwento.

    ------------------------------------------> If you could get Immigration away from me. hahahaha! even if you could, my answer is nope. like chels, I can't sell even if it would save my life.

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    on me way home. still have a class in 2 hrs.

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    fuck, what happened earlier tonight goes straight to the memories i'd like to relive. gudnite

    ---------------> lil raph got some!!! lol!

    on me way home. still have a class in 2 hrs.

    ----------------> walang tulugan!!! gudluck!

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    nag tututor ka chel?

    rephrase ko kaya...... What if hindi kayo magbebenta... Magkwekwento lang about the products. Kung ano ang benefit niya, kung para saaan siya, kung ano ang magagawa nito sa ating katawan.... But syempre, you have to use the product para may ikwento kayo.

    Actually ang coca cola hindi naman nagbebenta directly sa commercials eh... Sinasabi lang nila, "ang sarap mag coke araw-araw".

    ito isa secret sa pagbebenta: Never take it personally. Para ka lang sasakay ng jeep pero nilampasan ka naman.

    Almusal muna..... gandangUmaga sa inyo...!!!!

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    ^ Still no. It's just not "ME". I'm kinda a "hands-on" person. I let my hands do the talking. No, its not what you're thinking, maniacs but I wish. hahahaha!

    Mag gagabi na dito uy! hahahaha!

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    wicked1925's avatar posted by wicked1925, 4 months ago

    here we go again...working here in philippines and abroad are two different things but they both have their own similarities: you have to spend to live in both locations. i've been in the US and based from my observation, the cost of living is basically higher than here in pinas...that is if you'll not do the monetary conversion. for example a pack of cigarette may vary it's cost depending on the state that you're in, in NJ it costs about 6.25 per pack and in NY it's 8.50 per pack because of the variation in tax per state, but in here in philippines it will only cost you 45php for a flip top pack of marlboro lights. a bigmac meal costs 4+ USD while here it'll cost 130+. the bottomline is you have to live to work in both places and in order to live you have to spend for everything you need. it's just a matter of how you gonna live your life and spend your moolah in both places. quoting what my mom always says to me:

    "dito man o sa abroad kung hindi ka marunong gumastos la ka talaga maiipon"

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    think of the philippines as sinking ship.
    who would you be?
    the guy who stayed with the ship, trying patch holes up to prevent the ship from totally sinking?
    or the guy, who jumped shipped to save himself or his family?

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    ^how about being the guy who caused the ship to sink. :P

    and I'm out!

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    wicked1925's avatar posted by wicked1925, 4 months ago

    @sorekant: if philippines is a sinking ship, imagine all filipinos choosing to be the guy to stay with the ship patching holes...see? that's what we lacked as a filipino: unity and nationalism. if you guys are thinking that in other countries, ex. US, there's no corruption or anomalies in the gov't then you are wrong. the secret behind the success of these 1st world countries is because they love their country and they love what they are. instead of blaming each other, why not try to work with each other. come to think of it

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    kaya nga, umuwi na kayo dito. tulungan nyo kaming maglimas ng tubig dagat nang hindi tuluyang lumugbog ang bapor ng pilipinas. alam ko naman diyan kayo lubos na dalubhasa, sa mga butas.
    walang magaangat sa pinas kundi tayong mga pinoy.
    s'ya nga pala, patapos na ang buwan ng wika.

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    spidamang's avatar posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

    ^^^c'mon man. it's like you're saying that those who stay and try to make a living in the PI are engaged in an excercise in futility. There are still people who stay here despite all the negativity and continue to soldier on. Just because they don't earn dollars doesn't mean they shouldn't be valued.

    And based on your analogy, they did not jump from a sinking ship into the water, they transferred into another ship. Now then, by the rules of international maritime law, the better ship should've helped the sinking ship or negotiated the rules of salvage and acquired the sinking ship. hehe :P

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    musikero's avatar posted by musikero, 4 months ago

    got offered several times from my former bandmates na tumugtug sa ibang bansa pero tinangihan ko... last june tinawagan ulit ako, this time it was my mentor, nagtanong kung interesado akong tumugtug kasama sya sa oriental hotel sa thailand, starting salary is 40k baht, tinangihan ko ulit dahilan sa di ko gusto kundi dahil sa pride ko na kakagraduate ko lang sa masters degree ko, pinaghirapan kong ipasa ang compre-exam tapos tutugtug lang pala ako. nagisisisi ako ngayon kung bat tinngihan ko pa yun. bored na ako sa work ko, kurakot pa ang boss ko! waaaaaaa!

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    muffin's avatar posted by muffin, 4 months ago

    I love the Philippines, Its just so fucking cheap here. Saan ka pa makakakita ng full meal that costs under $1.50? or a complete wardrobe under $5, a condominium na malinis that rents $166 a month, or a cab fair that costs $1.50 from makati to quezon ave (i remember i took a cab with the same distance sa manchester and it costed me around Php3000)? Sa ibang bansa kelangan mo pa ng katakut takut na permit para maglinis ka lang ng pinggan, dito maglatag ka lang sa kalsada ng kumot na may anik may pagkakakitaan ka na.

    IMHO its all about perception rin naman eh. Sure its a fucked up little hell hole, pero kung mapapansin niyo there are alot of very successful people living here. they exist to show that its possible to make it here.. and make it big.

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    listahan's avatar posted by listahan, 4 months ago

    bottomline: wag maging tamad!

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    rafnex's avatar posted by rafnex, 4 months ago

    i dunno but it seems so hard to explain whenever my fellow pinoys here and back there ask me why am I still planning to work back in our country e andito na raw ako. it's like you've escaped hell but you still yearn the flames. yes i do get paid way higher than all of my previous salaries combined, but as they say, money can't buy back the time you've lost; time you've spent trying to earn as much only to realize that you're missing all those would-be memories with your family and friends. life is short, definitely a cliche, but the more you ignore it, the more it gets shorter.

    ok now isn't this thread supposed to be in emo, ms, charo?

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    scryptuz posted by scryptuz, 4 months ago

    my first son was born there in pinas & got sick after delivery due to infections,i spent almost P50,000 on hospital bills. when my kids get sick here in canada everything is free hospital, medicine, doctors appointment. If u are a low income family here in canada the goverment gives financial support. I totally agree with chelsea's first comment. if u work hard u get paid well here. dyan and sweldo ko dati inuubus ng tax, dito ang tax bumabalik. :)

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    how much is GMA worth now? for such a small person she sucks a lot of blood. Politics and Parasites.

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    LordKamot's avatar posted by LordKamot, 4 months ago

    speaking of ships... i grew up in a town where everyone seems to look at working on a ship, by ship i mean those luxury liners in the US and europe, as kitchen crew, ice carvers, dish washers, etc. and many from my town actually acquired some wealth by doing that, not most but many. although at some point i tried to half-heartedly apply for work on a ship, there seems to be no luck for me. not only that, being a consistent honor student during my schooling days (hehe magyabang ba), everybody, including my parents, expect me to be working abroad.
    in spite of all those expectations I still chose to get employed here and do my best.

    my number one reason for not going abroad is of course my family, i married young and I want to make it with them here for as long as i can. I totally agree with spits, muffin and rafnex. and i feel it is worth it now. There are still a lot of opportunities out here and it is up to anyone to grab and make good out of it.

    after four years of working here in makati, someone would always say "andito ka pala! kelan ka dumating?" while taking a walk around my home town.

    i have to agree again with rafnex, this thread is turning emo...

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    @manong_aref - isn't PGMA half-american? half the size of an american.

    /i had to laugh at that horrible joke
    //because an 8-year old paraplegic cousin told me
    ///wanted to tell him sex jokes but that would be mean

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    boozelang posted by boozelang, 4 months ago

    sabi nga ni ka eminem..

    "you better lose yourself in the music, the moment, you own it
    you better never let it go
    you only got one shot, do not miss the chance to blow..

    opportuniy comes once in a lifetime, yo!"

    in-line with the topic naman diba? ehehe

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    Again, what I would like to say here, if ever you have something to blame, it's the culture of the Filipinos.

    Some people get jobs easily because of their connections or influences. You would instantly have a low percentage of acquiring a job that you actually applied for when you're enemy is the son of the tita of the a high ranking employee. Forgot the term for it, but that is one example.

    Another would be the mentality of OFWs being the new age heroes of the Philippines. In my opinion, they're not. They're just working their ass so they could feed themselves and earn a lot of money. Sure they do bring in the dollars, but was that really their intention in the first place? I mean, basically they worked abroad to earn more. They just became accidental heroes or whatever you may call them.

    There are certainly more, crab mentality, corruption, utang-na-loob trait (which is bad for business by the way), etc. You can add some up if you like.

    Also, blame the parents who tell or force their children to take up nursing. Hah! Exportable bodies.

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    And this is why I don't like quoting other people.

    "The philippines is a great land of opportunity. It is for us to make full use of them."- Henry Sy, Sr.-

    By "us" did he mean them Chinese? lol. And by "make full use of them" did he mean "taking advantage of the land?". Yeah, his nationality may be Filipino, but he is made in China.

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    ^thus Chinese traits and attitudes hold on him tightly still..

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    What if hindi kayo magbebenta... Magkwekwento lang about the products
    - - > it would still be the same as selling.

    im not tutoring. im a working student. i study during the day and work in the evening. i work in a call center. now that is a job i love doing. in a way its like what you said, just talking, but then more than that.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    @toodles: that is the negative side...... why not think the positive side..

    May kwento ako.. May dalwang sapatero na pinadala sa india ng boss nila. Dahil nagplaplano silang magbenta ng sapatos.

    Tinawagan ni boss sapateroA..

    Boss: SapateroA, kumusta diyan sa india?
    SapateroA: Naku boss. lahat ng tao dito sa India nakapaa. Yung sapatos natin,
    hindi mabebenta dito.
    Boss: Ahh ganun ba? sige umuwi ka na dito.....

    (tinawagan si sapateroB)
    Boss: Kumusta sapateroB?
    SapateroB: naku boss, lahat ng tao dito nakapaa. Kung makikita nila tayo lang
    ang may suot ng sapatos, tiyak bibili silang lahat sa atin. Yayaman
    tayo.
    Boss: Ganun ba! Sige , ituloy natin ang negosyo....

    Dalawang tao parehong pareho ang nakita, pero isang Positibo at isang Negatibo. Sinong mas pinaboran, yung positibo....

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    Malulungkot ba kayo dahil ang rosas ay may tinik? O matutuwa dahil ang tinik ay may rosas?

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    ^kaso si sapateroB sinungaling at nakabuntis sa pilipinas dahil nilagyan ng tinik ang rosas kaya nagtatago sa india. :P

    Panggulo sa mundo ----------------------------> spitsmaster :P

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    its not about being negative. its about knowing who you are and what you can do..

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    I think its about what you should do.

    When I was a kid, I made a drawing in a piece of paper. Meron akong isang malaking bahay. May swimmingpool sa second floor. SA labas ng bahay, may tatlo akong sasakyan, 1 for personal use, 1 for family, 1 for my wife. At dahil nagkudeta noon, sabi ko dapat may tanke ako para kahit gyierahin ako, may panlaban ako. pati mga sundalo meron din. Ha! Ha! Ha! At meron din akong private jet.

    Kaya lang..... habang lumalaki ako. Naiisip ko, mahal pala ang swimmingpool.. Erase! Erase! Erase! mahal pala ang malaking bahay... Liitan! Liitan! Liliitan!
    mahal pala ang kotse! Motor nalang. Lalong imposible ang TANGKE! mahal din pala kahit mag-aral ng pagiging piloto.

    Parang kinuyumos ko ang papel at itinapon ko sa basurahan ang aking mga pangarap. (Emo...... Nyehehehe)

    I limited what i can do. And that is being negative.

    But now, I know who I am. I know what I can do. And I know what I should do. Ngayon yun papel, kinuha ko ulit. Unti unti kong iniunat at muli kong tiningnan.
    Ang sarap pala mangarap, lalo na kung ang pangarap mo nakikita mo matutupad.

    @spitmaster --->>>>>> bbeeeelllaaattttt......!!!!!!!

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    @arteo: But then that is one of the problems itself. The negative outweighs the positive. What I'm just saying here is that if we have to look for something to blame, then it's us ourselves and our culture. We need to get real. I'm not saying this because I just want to be pessimistic and argue with you, I'm saying this because it is a truth we must not fail to acknowledge. Then probably we can learn from this truth.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    "By "us" did he mean them Chinese? lol. And by "make full use of them" did he mean "taking advantage of the land?". Yeah, his nationality may be Filipino, but he is made in China." -- siguro mali lang ang pagkakaintindi ko dito.

    I don't argue with you too. For me, this is a very healthy discussion hearing everyone's opinions.

    Marami kasi akong naririnig na.... chinese kasi yan. negosyante, matipid, hindi maluho, magaling magtipid, masipag, bata pa tinuturuan ng magnegosyo ang anak kaya ang daming magaling na negosyanteng intsik, etc. etc. etc.

    We are learning kaya natin nasasabi ang mga ito. Ang tanong lang talga is what we do with what we learn.

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    But I guess not all people can see it. "Wala ng pag-asa dito sa Pilipinas", this is what I usually hear. ----- You know why this is what you hear most of the time? Because of Filipino traits and attitudes once again.

    FIlipinos have that tendency to contest among each other. Pasikatan kumbaga. Crab mentality comes in next.

    Filipinos are so passive. We wait for someone to come and do things first for us, we just follow later. It eats up all of our time, and by the time we know it, no one really came.

    Another would be Filipino time. Oh god, this thing really happens. Try and attend graduations and public ceremonies on government schools and offices.

    The last I could think for now would be the "bahala na" attitude. The "ok na yan" attitude. We settle for mediocrity and live with it. Another thing that is bad for business. How do you suppose we could compete with other countries if we settle for just this?

    Of course there are people who are unlike what I've said. But again, the number of the ones who are unlike these are outweighed by the ones who are like these. If we have to change, we must change these traits as well first.

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    chelsea's avatar posted by chelsea, 4 months ago

    ewan ko. i have always loved the philippines. my mom gave me the option where id stay and i naturally said id want to stay here. depende na siguro sa priorities mo yun. if you think that you SHOULD do something regardless of whatevs, then i guess you would do it. but for me, i choose not to do something because i can.

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    wicked1925's avatar posted by wicked1925, 4 months ago

    @chels: that's basically one of our problem, we normally chose to do nothing. Most pinoys chose to blame the government (whoever turd is sitting). The thing is we are in a democratic form of government, and in democracy remember that the power comes from the people it self so if the people decides to do nothing to help the government then the whole nation is hopeless.

    I still think that philippines has the potential to be back in business, just try to compare it zimbabwe ^_^ , as long as there are peeps who has hopes then there is hope for everyone.

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    Harley_Quinn's avatar posted by Harley_Quinn, 4 months ago

    "The thing is we are in a democratic form of government, and in democracy remember that the power comes from the people"

    In a direct democracy it can, but not in the Philippine version of democracy. We can not compare it to Zimbabwe, if we did it's like saying the Philippines is run by a despot (which might be true). Lols.

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    spidamang's avatar posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

    blaming the government is an easy cop out. it's pretty easy to take the position and everybody agrees with you.

    Nasunogan ka ng bahay? Kasalanan ni Gloria. Gutom ka? kasalanan ni gloria. Pati ang kamatayan ni Ninoy, kasalanan ni gloria. Why do you think she moved the date of the holiday? :P

    I still haven't voted ever. Maybe it's my fault too. ;)

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    ^the government is there to provide and lead the people. The root of the problem is A. They cant provide and B. They cant lead, mostly because of different factions, I watch the news everyday and whenever they get to interview a congressman or a senator it's always about one thing, fighting against one another and these are the "leaders" Now imagine one boat many leaders, one would say go this way, the other would say go the other way, may mapupuntahan kaya?

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    spidamang's avatar posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

    In a democracy, people get the government they deserve. Nagpaloko tayo kaya eto tayo. What I'm saying is that we shouldn't wait for a messiah to save us from hell. It's up to us. The little people.

    I'm too lazy to elaborate as I'm in a hurry to leave the office kaya baka mamaya. ;)

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    ^ so you admit that The Government is making a fool out of us? Nagpaloko kasi tayo?

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    I think the country needs a ruler with an iron fist, Jet Li or Wolverine? Asero?

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    maraming ngang opportunities dito.. oo nakikita ng iba yun.. hindi man ng karamihan pero may nakakakita ng ganyang opportunity na sinasabi mo..

    pero.. yung kikitain or sweldo dun sa opportunity na yun eh kulang pa pambili ng pagkain at pamasahe mo..

    ang nakikita na ng mga tao ngayon ay hindi na sa quality ng trabaho, kundi sa amount ng pinapa-suweldo..

    tignan mo ang call center.. malaki nga ang sweldo pero hanggang dun na lang.. call center ka na habang buhay.. wala ng improvement..

    kaya mas maganda na lang na magtrabaho sa ibang bansa at sumuweldo ng malaki.. kesa dito sa Pinas na masabing may trabaho ka lang at sumusweldo..

    minsan nga nagiging alipin na yung mga ibang empleyado sa amo nila tapos minsan na-dedelay pa yung sweldo or worst case scenario walang suweldo.. kaya di mo rin masisi ang iba..

    Philippines - land of opportunity? NO!

    Philippines - Land of OPPORTUNIST! mga oportunista! pati kapwa pinoy NILOLOKO! san ka pa?!

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    @abomination: How much income do you want?

    100 thousand a month? pwedeng pwede. pero dapat , meron ka nito "GLLA". Good Learning and Listening Attitude. Dapat hardworking ka and patience. And be optimistic. You have to have the guts.
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    "Philippines - Land of OPPORTUNIST! mga oportunista! pati kapwa pinoy NILOLOKO! san ka pa?!" ---> Sabi nga ni Albert Einstien... "If the fact doesn't change theory, change the fact."
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    "Changing the face can change nothing. Facing the changes will change everything."
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    Why dream to be a call center agent if you can dream to own a call center???

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    @arteo

    i agree with you with the GLLA stuff.. kaya naman natin maging world class workers and entrepreneurs kaso nga meron tayong tinatawag na "crab mentality" minsan pag nakikita nila na nagpro-progress ka sa trabaho mo eh nakikita ka nila as a "threat" sa position nila.. nangyari na kasi yun sa kapatid ko.. sobrang mahal nya yung trabaho nya kaso yung isang manager nakita cya as potential threat kaya siniraan cya

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    about the changing facts like albert einstein.. indeed he change the fact and even created the weapon wiping out Hiroshima off the map.

    if you can change the fact that my sister got fired becoz of a jealous manager then i will totally agree with you hands down..

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    100 thousand a month wage fee is applicable for "politicians" who are already rich and still getting richer by the minute.. what i'm talking about is the "worth of money" sa tingin mo sapat ang sinusweldo ng mga karamihan sa mangagawa natin ngayon.

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    why would i dream of having a call center business? that will only prove na sa call center na lang tayo magaling.. what i like is having a quality business na ipagmamalaki natin sa iba.. why not pioneer a new business focusing on outsourcing diba? kesa sa walang kwentang call center.. i-focus natin sa tunay na skills hindi yung porket magaling kang mag-english eh susuweldo ka na ng 18k-22k a month diba?

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    Hmm.

    Good Learning and Listening Attitude. Dapat hardworking ka and patience. And be optimistic. You have to have the guts. - no, you can't earn a hundred grand with just that. You would also have to have some skills that others commonly don't have. The talent. After all, you are what you are worth.

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    staying and trying to make a living in the philippines IS NOT an exercise of futility. it is only futile if you see it that way, it will be futile if you are the only guy trying to keep the whole ship stay afloat. and since many of us here still chose to stay here, i think it's pretty safe to say that what we are trying to do, helping to alleviate our economy, not just by doling in money but also by contributing to our fast depleting skill and knowledge pool, is not futile.

    regarding external help, grants, loans and technical assistance in all their forms coming from multinational monetary institutions and foreign development ministries are technically not free. most of these so called loans and grants are nothing but deadweights that temporarily try to cover up the hole. sabi nga ni spidamang, they're just trying to negotiate the rules of salvage or trying to the sinking ship, gamit ang kanilang 'good-will'. letse, daming panggugulang ang mga foreigners sa bawat bilateral trade agreements natin.

    i'm always looking forward when all those who emigrated would someday comeback home. tutal naman napag-aral n'yo na si totoy at si nene, tutal naman nakaipon na kayo, nakabili ng kotse at nakapatayo pa ng bahay, tutal naman natulungan n'yo na buong pamilya n'yo. sana yung bansa natin naman. sana naman, bumalik kayo dito nang may sigla pa kayong magtrabaho, magturo o manggamot. yung tipong di kayo bumabalik dito para mag-retire lang. sana lang.

    maraming oportunidad dito, oportunidad upang hugutin ang ating bansa sa kahirapan.

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    muffin's avatar posted by muffin, 4 months ago

    i dunno man, you people can spend all day complaining on and on about how low your incomes are, or how better other countries have it or for some strange retarded reason, blame the fucking chinese to why you're living in that poor state.

    or you could use all these effort to make something out of yourselves.

    you want a thousand grand, go out and fucking get it! stop bitching and being such a fucking cry baby blaming society, the government, the unjust system for your poor quality of life. take fucking responsibility to your status in life! kaya ka nandiyan ay dahil ginawa mo yan sa sarili mo. kung gusto mo umasenso, discartehan mo! you got to think, breath, and live success 24/7, walang holidays, walang reclamo, at walang sisehan pag nagkaletche letche.

    there is nobody responsible for you except yourself. not the fucking government, not fucking society, not even your goddamn boss. ang mga taong alam kong umaasa lang sa gobyerno para sa pagasenso ng kanilang buhay ay mga squatter, yung mga araw araw pumipila ng 5 oras para lang makabili ng isang kilong bigas. since nakakapaginternet pa kayo, assume ko na wala kayong problema sa pagkain. so bakit ang mentalidan na pinapairal niyo ay pang squatter?

    ...

    yun lang naman.. happy mode na ulit. :)

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    gramps posted by gramps, 4 months ago

    sa anong mga paraan maiahon ang bansa mula sa kahirapan?

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    muffin's avatar posted by muffin, 4 months ago

    ^get fucking rich. the more wealthy people there are. the better countries turn out to be.

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    rafnex's avatar posted by rafnex, 4 months ago

    ^lols mas gusto ko yung last line ang lalim ng meaning ;p

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    rafnex's avatar posted by rafnex, 4 months ago

    that was for muff's other post

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    paano ba yayaman?

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    joriben's avatar posted by joriben, 4 months ago

    I'm working now earning less than my sister in qatar. I'm a Graphic Designer while she is working on an office with clerical job. My mom said that I can earn more than my sister there but could possibly end up with a job not in my line.

    I don't want that to happen. Kaya mas gugustuhin ko pang maiwan dito because I want to work on a job I want.

    Pero siyempre I'm also aware that I'm also underpaid. Kailngan lang talaga clever ka sa paghahanap ng trabaho. I will soon leave my current company and look for a better one siyempre in the Philippines pa rin.

    Kapag umalis kasi ako sa Pilipinas marami akong mamimiss.

    I'm a sucker for events and gatherings that I know wala sa qatar.

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    Right indeed you are, muffin.

    But it is in here that we could dissect the causes of these things. And that's what is the reason for this talk.Don't get me wrong, I wasn't even half to complaining. I'm still a dependent and still live and eat at my parents house, and I'm just here spilling out my thoughts on the current situation. I still am studying in order to support myself in the near future, or the far, and it's just sometimes nice to engage in these such conversations, like drunkards bitching about everything and nothing every night at the nearest Aling Toyang store. Come morning, they wake up and do what they have to do with their lives.

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    minor's avatar posted by minor, 4 months ago

    Im working now in makati as a programmer but my salary is quite low compare to a regular programmer... my solution? adsense, $20/day is not bad..now who got blog with PageRank 6?

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    are people really underpaid or do they tend to overvalue themselves?

    what's the current minimum wage and what's the ideal salary/wage to make people stop complaining?

    will they be content doing repetitive dead-end jobs if given a satisfactory salary?

    should people just give up ambitions and stay content?

    is working abroad the only solution?

    are we done yet?

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    @minor

    how do you get $20/day using adsense? are you a premium member? can you teach me how?

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    toodles's avatar posted by toodles, 4 months ago

    ^^lol at the last line.

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    @muff you'd be singing a different tune if you were born poor.

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    spitsmaster's avatar posted by spitsmaster, 4 months ago

    wow. un lang.

    lol @ raph

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    muffin's avatar posted by muffin, 4 months ago

    ^alot of the wealthiest people today were born poor or middle class. i really doubt they spent their poor days online being such a crybaby about them being born poor. really, there is no excuse to go at it and kick some serious money making balls.

    unless of course whining about being born poor makes you happy then... shit, go for it dude.

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    different time and situation back then you can just peddle your goods in the street and no one would try to put you in jail or ransacked your produce. MMDA did a raid on the streets of manila and those who are trying to make a living paid for it big time. although i dont condone illegal stalls it would've been better if the government would operate a public market with affordable rent.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    @abomination FACE=SYSTEM.... what happened to your sister is true,, corporate reality yan eh.

    I am not just talking about call center... I pointing about the system. Why not be your own boss? No guts to be your own boss? Sa akala mo ba ay politicians lang ang kumikita ng ganun? may kilala pa nga ako 400K a month hindi naman politician eh... And take note, dating factory worker. @abomination, just be open minded with the oportunities. But Im not saying you to be an oportunist.

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    "Whether you think that you can do it or not, either way you are right." -Henry Ford

    Michael Jordan is not born to be a basketball player. And dami niyang failing moments bago maging superstar.
    Tiger Woods. Without the golf course, wala siyang ability.
    Si bill Gates, sa palagay ba ninyo magaling siyang programmer?
    Colonel Sanders... at the age of 65, naging successfull sa kaniyang Chicken menu after 1008 attempts.
    7-up was before 3-up, then 4-up, then 5-up, 6-up
    Noong una sabi ko, "Bakit ako bibili ng mineral water sa inyo? Eh yung tubig libre lang sa gripo gusto mo bigyan pa kita." Pero ngayon, look at the Water refilling stations.
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    Where there is a crisis, there is an opportunity. Sa tingin ko, maraming pinoy gusto ay biglang yaman... yung tipong tataya sa lotto, then...... tsedeng!!! Marami kasing pinoy na "to see is to believe". Pero sa Bible ang sabi, "Believe and you shall see."

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    Patts patts patts to muffin.. Yan ang pinoy!

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    road_pass56's avatar posted by road_pass56, 4 months ago

    @chels: ask lng ako ("kaunting tulong lng, exam/interview ko bukas, basi sa experience mo"), wat r d possible Q's wen applying 4 a "technical support staff" sa call center?

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    si kuya arteo pede na gumawa ng inspirational book. nyahaha

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    spidamang's avatar posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

    Here's my take.

    The world does not run on set parameters. Lahat grey, walang black and white. So just because you do a job and you think you do it well, don't automatically expect to be rewarded. Your selling your time, and service and most of the time, it's not you setting the price. Now since hindi mo gusto ang pricing ng "time and service" mo dito, siyempre hahanap ka ng ibang market na mataas ang benta mo ng iyong product. i.e. mag aabroad ka.

    Now if you are expecting to be an employee for the rest of your life kasi ang alam mo lang na pagkaperahan mo is ang iyong time and service, then the present situation in our country is not your ideal market. Now in all honesty, for the past 3 years, I have only been an employee. Time and service lang ang pinagkakaperahan ko. Hindi pa nga "specialized service" to.

    I had 2 failed business ventures na more sa laway at oras ang losses and not sa monetary. Now the lesson there on the failures was that I should have commited more financially but takot ako mawalan ng pera. ( Yung mentality bang sana kung hindi napunta sa palpak na negosyo, nakabili na sana ako ng magandang cellphone, laptop, flatscreen tv, etc.)

    I personally was too focused on getting material things, rather than finding ways to as the cliche goes "make money work for me". Now hanggang ngayon, wala pa akong "money making venture". Ayoko kasing magiging gaya gaya puto maya lahat pareho benta. Kumbaga nag-eexperimento pa rin. It's a good thing binata pa ako at walang pamilya at least less yung stress kung matututulog na ako.

    What I'm saying is, having a high paying job may be great, but that is not the only way to acquiring wealth. Think about it, you only have maybe only 40 years worth of "time and service" to sell. Non renewable of resources kumbaga.

    Also as I see it, most employees that are highly educated look down on businessmen. A lot of us hate to sell, thinking it's beneath our dignity. Para bang may sense of entitlement tayo na porke't may degree tayo, we should make more money than those who don't have one.

    For the record, I come from a middle class family. My grandparents and parents followed the adage of go to school, get a job, raise a family, retire, enjoy, die. Sadly this does not work in our day and age anymore. My grandparents continually curse Winston Garcia for their pension delays. Some of their children dread their retirement because they fear it won't be enough. This is why I don't want to be dependent only on my job.

    It's up to us to change our lives. If your really poor, it definitely would be extremely harder than those who have something to fall back on. But you are in a better position because hey, how worse can it get for you di ba? But a defeatist attitude has never helped anyone rich or poor.

    Yun lang at magtatrabaho na ako. :)

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    angtipaklong's avatar posted by angtipaklong, 4 months ago

    i have to agree with muffins points...blaming is an easy cop out.
    if things are to change the people need to change first.

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    ^so you'll happily work and work and pay your taxes to a government who's incompetence and corruption scares even the world bank? Sino ba public servants? mga tao? Some are complaining that the taxes are quiet high but it's only going to get worst, saan tingin nyo kukuha ng pambayad ang gobyerno sa World Bank? Natural Resources? We cant even grow our own rice for Pete's sake.

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    lakerfan's avatar posted by lakerfan, 4 months ago

    sana mabasa ng mga leftist ang post ni muffin. \m/

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    one more please. Batasang Pambansa reno would cost the taxpayers how much again? 200M? while most of metro manila gets flooded everytime it rains, how convenient para sa mga nakaupo na wala namang ginagawa kundi magpagalingan.

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    angtipaklong's avatar posted by angtipaklong, 4 months ago

    @Areflex - are those red crabs in christmas island edible?

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    arjay's avatar posted by arjay, 4 months ago

    Don't Stop Believin' - Journey

    wait, there's a school for truck drivers?

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    spidamang's avatar posted by spidamang, 4 months ago

    ^Granted that the government sucks. Granted that the political system is run by thugs in barongs. What I'm saying is, they're a fact of life. Like I said above you cannot wait for a messiah to save this country. Ultimong si Hesukristo ang gawin mong presidente, kung ang ugali ng mamamayan ay ganon pa rin, wala pa rin siyang magagawa.

    An iron fisted ruler may get some results but most of the time only for the short term.
    Kung namahalan ka sa presyo ng bigas, are you going to wait for the government to do something or are you going to find a way to have access to cheaper rice?

    Kung nataasan ka sa tax, are you going to keep on paying grudgingly or hanapan mo ng paraan kung pwede kang makakuha ng tax relief? on a side note, mataas ba ang tax sa pinas?

    The world bank only looks at numbers on paper. We're living on it for real. If you don't like the way the government is running things, do something about it. The government is not like a father that gives everything to their children. They're more like an orphanage that seem functional from the outside but once you look closer, you'll see they're like something out of a Charles Dickens novel. You hate being an orphan in a lousy orphanage? Then either leave the orphanage, or find ways to improve it on your own or if you get the numbers, take it over and have a butterfly revolution. ;)

    What I'm saying is, marami na akong narinig na reklamo sa gobyerno. What I don't hear is any solutions offered.

    And yeah you know why Skrull Lady is still in power? Kilala niya kasi tayo. Machiavellian yang tita ko. Kumbaga sa chess, alam na niya ang lahat ng moves ng kalaban niya at meron siyang counter move. :)

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    angtipaklong's avatar posted by angtipaklong, 4 months ago

    @Arflex - don't get me started talking about taxes, at the moment i am paying 40c of tax for every $1 i make that's almost half of my income, going straight to tax. i am not sure what the current income tax rates are in phils at the moment.

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    ^pre di ako taga Xmas Island trip lang yun pero according to my reliable sources at google di daw edible yung Red Crabs, Red Lobster oo. >.<

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    rafnex's avatar posted by rafnex, 4 months ago

    filipinos are brilliant...except that sometimes we use more saliva than ink.

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    still at it? work already! remember.

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    Quentin's avatar posted by Quentin, 4 months ago

    wow. you all sound like an angry mob.

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    Quentin's avatar posted by Quentin, 4 months ago

    off hand, here's something interesting when you look for 'kleptocracy' in wiki:

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    In early 2004, the anti-corruption Germany-based NGO Transparency International released a list of what it believes to be the ten most self-enriching leaders in recent years.[5]

    In order of amount allegedly stolen (in USD), they are:

    1. Former Indonesian President Suharto ($15 billion – $35 billion)
    2. Former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos ($5 billion – $10 billion)
    3. Former Zairian President Mobutu Sese Seko ($5 billion)
    4. Former Nigerian President Sani Abacha ($2 billion – $5 billion)
    5. Former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milošević ($1 billion)
    6. Former Haitian President Jean-Claude Duvalier ($300 million – $800 million)
    7. Former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori ($600 million)
    8. Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko ($114 million – $200 million)
    9. Former Nicaraguan President Arnoldo Alemán ($100 million)
    10. Former Philippine President Joseph Estrada ($78 million – $80 million)

    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy

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    acer3ya1's avatar posted by acer3ya1, 4 months ago

    ^ that's odd, Former Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra's missing... :P

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    lakerfan's avatar posted by lakerfan, 4 months ago

    it's not updated, i guess (data must be 2004 and below). even GMA is not up there.

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    wicked1925's avatar posted by wicked1925, 4 months ago

    In early 2004, the anti-corruption Germany-based NGO Transparency International released a list of what it believes to be the ten most self-enriching leaders in recent years.

    I think it is indeed old, as stated in the notes ^_^

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    acer3ya1's avatar posted by acer3ya1, 4 months ago

    ^ di ko nabasa e . sensya na :P

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    And yeah you know why Skrull Lady is still in power? Kilala niya kasi tayo. Machiavellian yang tita ko. Kumbaga sa chess, alam na niya ang lahat ng moves ng kalaban niya at meron siyang counter move. :)

    -- sadly this is true, a lot of political observers here would agree with you. i'm not trying to praise the skrull queen or anything, but she's too damn smart and cunning. if you have been following the news since she grabbed the palace seat, you'll notice that when she focuses her attention on an issue you can bet she'll be able to find a way to worm herself out of it. damn, she even survived countless numbers of coup without the aid of the kingmakers (FVR and Enrile). she knows how much each and every dirty politician is worth. ekonomista nga e.

    oh yeah, @Areflex, blaming the government is like hitting your head on the wall.

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    the only thing that breaks the barrier of change is that..

    being on top of the food chain is the best place, but staying there is the reality you must face..

    @ arteo

    bakit dun sa mga famous people na binanggit mo walang Pinoy?

    diba opportunities for the Filipinos ang topic? but ni isang pinoy wala kang binanggit?

    maganda na sana yung justification mo pero kulang..

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    Economic Development = Prosperity to All.
    Corruption stalls economic growth without jobs people would be fighting for the same position this would put the upper hand to the "entrepreneurs" grossly underpaying employees making them expendable an asset that can easily be replaced. Individual efforts to succeed would surely benefit a few but not the country in general, in fact IMHO if everyone decides to take charge and create their own money making ventures it would be twice as hard to succeed based on competition alone.

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    bottomline = the government scares foreign investors because there is no sense of fair play. those who are in seat would favor relatives and cronies. without investors = 0 jobs. Number one asset ng Pinas = untapped work force, di naman tamad mga Pilipino wala lang opportunity.

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    @abomination: kung magbanggit ako ng pinoy, tatanggapin mo ba na pinoy sila? o
    magdadahilan na hindi naman purong pinoy iyan eh! Naintsik
    naman talga yan eh!

    In that case, I was talking about the "Talent". as posted by toodles. Sabi kasi niya, dapat may talent eh. Ang sa akin akin, practice makes it perfect.

    Si Henry Sy, papayag ka bang pinoy siya? Si Lucio Tan? Si Robert Jaworski? Sen. Barbers? Socorro Ramos? Imelda Marcos? Paolo Bediones? etc. etc...

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    Excuses are very far from reasons.

    Sabi nga ni Henry Sy, Sr. "Not all the people can do it. Some people might have the interest but not the resources. They might have the resources and the interest but not the GuTs. You have to have the Guts to do this. You have to look long term. Be optimistic."

    As I said before, dalawang klase lang ng tao titingin dito. Isang Negative, at isang Positive. Yung Negative, siguro sasabihin nila, Intsik ang may sabi niyan. Para sa mga intsik lang yan. . . . . . . . . . . At sa mga positibo, they will look the positive side na if he can, why can't I?

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    And stop depending on what the country can do for us. Think of what we can do for the country. As I read in a book, "Dependency is hindrance to your own growth." Nakikita natin maraming reklamo about SSS, pensions, medicare, etc. etc. kaya ngayon pa lang, Let all start thinking for another way out.

    I remembered sabi ng kuya ko, at least libre isang sako ng bigas pag naregular. At least may benefits. At least secured. But for how long? Freedom and Security is very opposite in meaning. The people with the highest security have the least freedom.

    Sabi nga sa Evan Almighty, "You want to change the world but you don't know where to begin. Build the ARC."

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    Areflexia's avatar posted by Areflexia, 4 months ago

    ARC = another random cliche. LOL

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    @ arteo

    sayang sablay ka pa sa ARC.. it suppose to be ARK - Act of Random Kindness

    well you must be in dreamland.. wala ka sa Pilipinas kung yan ang iniisip mo.. di na uso dito ang Act of Random Kindness..

    Survival of the Fittest is much better

    sa huli yung mga nabanggit mong Pinoy na successful eh sila na lang ang mabubuhay at matitira dito sa Pilipinas dahil sila lang ang "can afford" sa sobrang taas na lahat ng presyo sa dadating na panahon.. pano naman yung iba? yung "IBA"? dapat maranasan mo ang nararanasan nila para maintindihan mo

    i agree with Areflexia

    "you'd be singing a different tune if you were born poor. "

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    arteo's avatar posted by arteo, 4 months ago

    aling karanasan? Yung mag-ulam ng pansit canton araw-araw? O yung mag sabaw na lang ng toyo para may lasa naman ang kanin? Nasubukan mo na bang kumain ng kanin ang ulam ay limang pisong spaghetti? O umattend ng ROTC for the whole day at isang monay lang ang lunch at maraming tubig? Eh yung regaluhan ka ng tita mo ng damit pang-christmas party kasi wala kang pambili?

    Naranasan mo na bang pang-ulam yung isang lata ng "Maling" for 4 days? o magsabaw na lang mainit na kape? Yung tipong naiiyak ka na dahil nagugutom ang pamilya mo?

    Naranasan mo na bang makatanggap ng subpeona, whatsoever you call that, dahil tumalbog ang tseke na nanay mo? Eh yung 11 yrs magtago ang nanay dahil baon sa utang?

    Eh....

    Eto, yung tipong sasabihin LOKO-LOKO ka dahl sa mga pangarap mo na imposible daw maabot?

    If we were born poor, Yes! we should be singing a different tune. Different tune from the poor people. Para bang ganito, nakita mo ng may butas ang sahig ng bahay mo, bakit hindi ka pa gumawa ng paraan para hindi mabuslot. Ang paraan ba ay tumira sa ibang bahay?

    HIndi na ba uso? Sa anong planeta ka ba nakatira? If you cant build an "ARK", kagaya ka din nila. Now I know.

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    Sorry kung mali ang spelling ko. I I've got more than 5 "singkos" in college. Pero yun, hindi naging hadlang to reach my dreams. Never let your school interfere with your education. At least I've learned. And the most important, I made an action on what I have learned.

    "The more I learn, the more I realized how much I do not know."

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    From the Forbidden Kingdom movie:
    Jackie Chan said, "You know too much, but you know nothing."

    Napakdaming mapupulot na aral sa mga pelikula. Why not try to look beyond the reality?

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    muffin's avatar posted by muffin, 4 months ago

    must fan.. the flame.. haha. :)
    ...

    first with areflexia's argument:

    the thing with owning your own private business is having the ability to do whatever the hell you want to do with it.. because one, its yours. no one is forcing people to take these low paying jobs. they took it in their own accord, well aware of how much they are going to get paid or the benifits they will or will not be getting, and how much the government will be taking off their income. because that my friend, is the price of feeling "secure".

    another thing with having your own private business is that corruption is a relatively small variable which may or may not affect actual business development. because the only time your business will be in contact with the government is during registration, and tax collecting... this is when you will hope that your accountants and lawyers are very well compensated and happy working for you. this is also where charity, which is tax deductible, comes in (will point this out when i focus on abomination's argument)

    i absolutely, totally, 100% disagree on your final statement about when everybody starts their own businesses that competition will fuck them up somehow. It is true that there is competition... but isn't the nature of competition about the "development", and "growth" of the participating individuals? competition = better product/service which in turn better deal for the consumers. the only way i see competition fucking up your business is when you stagnate which in turn will get you devoured by your rival. if you want to start a business, you gotta be relentless.

    abomination

    dude, a lot of people in our local community are innately nice and does a lot of charity work because, for one, they can. do you know why in those emergency manuals on airplanes it reads that during an emergency landing, when the oxygen masks comes down, it is required that you put YOURS on first before helping others put theirs? it is because you are useless when you pass out. same thing with wealth, how could you help other financially troubled individuals when you yourself lack the funds?

    i think IMHO the people who whine, complain about the plight of our "poor" or "underpaid" countrymen are like that because they feel helpless that they themselves can't do anything about it. paano mo nga naman ibibigay ang bagay na wala ka?

    so i suggest that you put the oxygen mask on YOU first dude. be fucking successful, be a beacon of inspiration that this country could follow... naks, ang emo letche :p

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    sorenkant's avatar posted by sorenkant, 4 months ago

    sabi ng titser ko, maingay daw ang lata na walang laman
    try watching a session in the senate or in the congress. then observe kung sino ang ngawa ng ngawa, complain ng complain.

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    darthjesus's avatar posted by darthjesus, 4 months ago

    let's get back to OPPORTUNITY. can someone list them down, please. i want to invest in the near future, a smart person can always spot an opportunity and exploit it. since i'm not there, can you please list some?

    btw, doesn't charity make people aid-dependent? why not make them pay for a tiny interest, that way they'll get their asses up and work for it.

    lol@sorenkant - quentin trantino is a talkative bastard, his info-overloaded brain would be far from being an empty can. he could be a freak of nature. hahahaha.

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    abomination's avatar posted by abomination, 4 months ago

    @arteo

    Jackie Chan said, "You know too much, but you know nothing."

    you know too much famous quotes, but still need to prove something..

    kelangan makitaan muna ng results bago sabihing pwede or applicable lahat ng sinasabi mo.. dahil ngayon nasa realidad tayo na ang iba ay nagbibingi-bingihan at nagbubulag-bulagan..

    kung ako sayo subukan mo parehas kung anong mas komportable sayo..

    kung ang magtrabaho dito or sa ibang bansa..

    you can never prove it unless you've experience it..

    quote that..

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    Quentin's avatar posted by Quentin, 4 months ago

    ah finally, someone who makes sense. almost.

    opportunity is there whether you're in the Philippines or not. imho, opportunity is more individual-dependent than country-dependent. you see it, you go for it.

    difference is, in the Philippines, the job that you take equates how much dignity you have.

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